Curse

Silverblad3 · Feb 03, 2010, 11:27 AM // 11:27

Hi Folks

The macro transaction costumes were introduced and people were delighted to support Anet in funding the development of GW2, updates for GW, customer service, 'content' and overall quality of the game.

Here is the debate:

Do people think overall improvements have been made to GW specifically in regards to updates, the problem of bots and service?

Have you seen an improvement in service, updates and GW management?

Discuss!

Silver

Riot Narita · Feb 03, 2010, 11:42 AM // 11:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silverblad3

Hi Folks

The macro transaction costumes were introduced and people were delighted to support Anet in funding the development of GW2, updates for GW, customer service, 'content' and overall quality of the game.

Here is the debate:

Did people make the false assumption that overall improvements would be made to GW and improvements be made, specifically in regards to updates, the problem of bots and service?

Have you seen an improvement in service, updates and GW management?

Discuss!

Silver

You ask if people have seen any improvements... but at the same time you tell us that expecting improvements were a "false assumption" (in other words, there are none).

Are you really expecting a discussion, or is this just a glorified whine about microtransactions?

Silverblad3 · Feb 03, 2010, 11:49 AM // 11:49

If it was a whine I would just be blunt. I want to know if people think if their expectations are being met or not, it is simple.

Silver

Popeye1906 · Feb 03, 2010, 12:27 PM // 12:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silverblad3

Hi Folks

The macro transaction costumes were introduced and people were delighted to support Anet in funding the development of GW2, updates for GW, customer service, 'content' and overall quality of the game.

Here is the debate:

Do people think overall improvements have been made to GW specifically in regards to updates, the problem of bots and service?

Have you seen an improvement in service, updates and GW management?

Discuss!

Silver

No.

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The-Bigz · Feb 03, 2010, 12:33 PM // 12:33

In the poor American economy I think that all the money that Arena Net can get will help them with the development of GW2, which makes sure it comes out rather than getting shelved like alot of anticipated MMO/Counsel games that were SUPPOSED to be getting released. It helps secure GW2 from comming out, but in regards to GW1, no.

There is not a single build that many new/mediocre players can play and spike or win big in any facet of PvP in, and dont get me started on PvE. 'LOL its a regular class and not an A/E get the **** outta here noob!'

Guild Wars is severly lacking in teamplay ability, at all. People go to the internet to have fun. Getting on vent with a group of people and spending the day yelling some random persons name for everyone to hit the 1 button on to kill them is not teamplay or fun. Its quite boring and with the recent lagpikes its becomming even more of a pain.

IMHO - I think that the GW Transactions will help improve the speed at which GW2 is made, but I dont believe it is doing anything for GW1. Botters run rampant, and the only thing A-Net does to change that is change 1 line of code so that the bot doesn't work with it. Its 2010, people aren't computer illiterate and will find it immediatly, fix the coding on their bot, and continue botting. What needs to be improved is A-nets communication with the playerbase about what is to be done about the insanely assanine amount of bots and client side changes to give someone an advantage in the game. That is where the playerbase is going. I know of around 250 active players on during peak times. The rest of the people running the same path and doing the same thing and not talking? Those are bots, not people. I dont remember the last time I could find a team for PvE without my SF assasin or rit. Even my Warrior can't find a team because Guild Wars doesn't need tanks(not that Warriors are actually viable for tanking LOL) or pressure.

You asked if it fixed it, I said GW2 may work better. GW1 is showing no improvement, just more veteran friendly nerfs and newbie hate/inability to make teamplay a large component of the game. Dont say GvG or HA is a large teamplay component of the game. Most of the guilds/teams in there are using bots and/or spend a ridicolous amount of time on the game, usually both. What happened to TA or AB or RA for players that just want to play the game rather than get owned by a set of scripts?

sykoone · Feb 03, 2010, 12:38 PM // 12:38

I doubt you're going to see any difference anytime soon. Content and update speed is determined by the number of designers and programmers on the Live team. If they took all the cash from the costumes and used it to hire new programmers, then they would need time to find a experienced programmers, train them on how GW is designed and coded, and bring them up to speed on current projects. Since the costumes are barely a month old, it's doubtful that any results would be seen yet.

Use the same logic for QA personnel, support services, etc.

However, it's more likely that the income from these microtransactions is being used to fund GW2 development. With so few copies being sold, I'm sure Anet wants to get GW2 finished so they can get it out the door, so it's a safe bet that most of their income is going to get GW2 fine-tuned.

Tullzinski · Feb 03, 2010, 12:43 PM // 12:43

Obviously, since the majority of people were moved to work GW2 service/updates has been reduced. One cannot expect quality service/updates to increase or maintain previous levels established during the early years of GW, when only 4-5 people are working on GW.

As for Bots...if you have studied the problem and the programs involved you may come to the conclusion that with the current game it is not going to be fixed. I do not expect it to. IMO Rebuilding GW to combat bots is not worth the money and time. I just hope all the "elite" retards do not F&%# up GW2 like they have with GW. Their hobby/interest in API's has destroyed GW

The-Bigz · Feb 03, 2010, 12:53 PM // 12:53

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Originally Posted by Tullzinski

Obviously, since the majority of people were moved to work GW2 service/updates has been reduced. One cannot expect quality service/updates to increase or maintain previous levels established during the early years of GW, when only 4-5 people are working on GW.

As for Bots...if you have studied the problem and the programs involved you may come to the conclusion that with the current game it is not going to be fixed. I do not expect it to. IMO Rebuilding GW to combat bots is not worth the money and time. I just hope all the "elite" retards do not F&%# up GW2 like they have with GW. Their hobby/interest in API's has destroyed GW

I've taken a look and if they changed a couple lines of code instead of one it would help keep the idiots away. Would it stop bots? Nah. Would it keep over 3/4th the playerbase from using them? Yea. I dont want bots running rampant all over the game, a couple '1337' hackers using them isn't as big a deal as a public bot for the whole population. I completely agree with you though. Nerds with freetime and knowledge do seem to destroy everything, including Hiroshima during WW2.

Phineas · Feb 03, 2010, 01:58 PM // 13:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silverblad3

Hi Folks

The macro transaction costumes were introduced and people were delighted to support Anet in funding the development of GW2, updates for GW, customer service, 'content' and overall quality of the game.

Here is the debate:

Do people think overall improvements have been made to GW specifically in regards to updates, the problem of bots and service?

Have you seen an improvement in service, updates and GW management?

Discuss!

Silver

I admit to not having the time to search further just now, but whilst these thoughts may well have been at the forefront of the mind of the purchaser, who is to say that Anet would put that money towards those aims? It may just have been a profit booster to just pay the Xmas bonus (if there was one!). Game box sales are mostly likely at their lowest ever, so the existing customer base is far easier to market to.

Therefore, I can't answer the OP because I don't know if that was the original intent of the funds.

Mokeiro · Feb 03, 2010, 02:10 PM // 14:10

Of course it had impact

Car of anet employess before micros

Car of anet employess after micros

NCsofts CEOs after microtransactions.

Odinius · Feb 03, 2010, 02:13 PM // 14:13

Think is was just to fill Anet's bank-account, like a business is supposed to do.
I like the costumes a lot, where are the Canthan New Year ones Anet!!!???

Redvex · Feb 03, 2010, 03:27 PM // 15:27

I bought only Bonus Mission Pack that is worth any single $.
Costumes etc are a waste of money

HellScreamS · Feb 03, 2010, 03:31 PM // 15:31

might be slight off-topic, but I've only seen buggers about those costumes. Now, what's the point in all this whining are guys who said they're not gonna buy em, cause Anet is doing a stupidity with the costumes and stuff? Those costumes DON'T help you with anything, they give NO bonus towards the game. What's the point in whining about them? This is the thing I never understood.

HawkofStorms · Feb 03, 2010, 04:48 PM // 16:48

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Originally Posted by Silverblad3

Have you seen an improvement in service, updates and GW management?

No. The exact opposite. The fact that Lum hasn't been disciplined for insulting his customers and NCSoft continues to ignore/lie about account security/botting is some of the worst management decisions of any company I've ever seen. Stuff is way worse now then it was 3 years ago.

chessyang · Feb 03, 2010, 05:15 PM // 17:15

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Originally Posted by Silverblad3

Have you seen an improvement in service, updates and GW management?

not right at this very moment or from last month. but i hope they do COME and come soon.

on a side note a lot of ppl must of bought that 9.99 costume. see so many ppl with it on.

Hyperventilate · Feb 03, 2010, 05:32 PM // 17:32

The only thing I've noticed was that they're taking longer and longer to respond to support tickets.

But, I may be a half-biased opinion.. I've never had an issue with Guild Wars or any of their support. When I was falsely perma-banned they got it cleared up quickly. Not a hint of an apology, but I have my account back safe and sound -- Didn't need one.

But, I guess I could jump on the bandwagon and agree that the updates have really been slacking. XTH has been completely ignored, the updates have been lacking in pizazz (Decent update is what, 7-8 months late?).

Bob Slydell · Feb 03, 2010, 07:25 PM // 19:25

There have been things that have NEEDED to be done for many years now, but Anet just pushes out more useless, trivial things in the middle of problems as long as it makes $$$$$$$ and thats how it will always be for any company.

paranon · Feb 03, 2010, 07:52 PM // 19:52

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Originally Posted by The-Bigz

You asked if it fixed it, I said GW2 may work better. GW1 is showing no improvement, just more veteran friendly nerfs.

If there are no nerfs, how can they be "veteran Friendly"?

Ralisti · Feb 03, 2010, 07:57 PM // 19:57

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Originally Posted by HellScreamS

might be slight off-topic, but I've only seen buggers about those costumes. Now, what's the point in all this whining are guys who said they're not gonna buy em, cause Anet is doing a stupidity with the costumes and stuff? Those costumes DON'T help you with anything, they give NO bonus towards the game. What's the point in whining about them? This is the thing I never understood.

I think the main reason people are complaining about them is that anet spent time on making costumes and making sure the system will work with costumes -- instead of working on skill updates, support tickets, other content etc etc

Shayne Hawke · Feb 03, 2010, 08:51 PM // 20:51

I have seen no improvements to GW that I feel were the results of adding any kind of microtransactions, aside from the benefits of the microtransactions themselves.